Besides PS3, can anything play Fantastic Four:RotSS

khwiggins2 · 10-02-07, 08:32 PM

Has anyone with a stand alone player been able to get Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer to run. I just get a screen telling me I need a firmware update.

I have the Samsung BD-P1200

ditch-digger · 10-02-07, 08:34 PM

not mine either...

you know, this really sucks...how much did we pay for the freeking things..?

its bad enough you have to choose sides to play certain movies...

but now some don't even work.......

umd part 2

ditch-digger · 10-02-07, 08:36 PM

cant wait till spiderman....maybe only 1&2 will work, and 3 will not..

avg consumer.....hd-dvd no disney
blu-ray some movies may work....crap shoot
dvd....hhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Ergoguy34 · 10-02-07, 08:38 PM

I just finished watching FFROSS on my sony bdp-s300, wow, what a great movie..

khwiggins2 · 10-02-07, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ergoguy34

I just finished watching FFROSS on my sony bdp-s300, wow, what a great movie..

Thanks...I'm happy for you...Thanks for rubbing it in.

khwiggins2 · 10-02-07, 08:42 PM

I think going forward with BD+, someone will have to create a graph with all of the BD+ movies and what players they work on and what level of firmware is required for the working ones....this really sucks and I'm just looking forward to profile 1.1 and 2.0 compliant movies.

JamesO · 10-02-07, 08:58 PM

Not to rub salt in the wounds, but the BDP1000 can play it.

I got a warning screen that the firmware wasn't optimum. After clicking through the screen and waiting an excruciatingly long time for it to load, it went on to play with frequent stutters....but it did play.

Slim GoodBooty · 10-02-07, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by khwiggins2

Has anyone with a stand alone player been able to get Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer to run. I just get a screen telling me I need a firmware update.

I have the Samsung BD-P1200

Nice. That help the little people regret their purchase. To be honest, my kids wanted this and I took one look at the "advanced game" crap and knew it was going to be an issue. I'll consider it again after some solid reports on the 94HD. $30 compared to $14 is stupid anyway.

javayoda · 10-02-07, 09:03 PM

You guys need to go after the manufacturers of these players. It's the classic chicken and egg routine. If Fox waited for the hardware companies to provide compliant players, it would never happen. (Because some hardware companies don't really care about features that aren't available on any titles.) This is the swift kick in the behind these companies need to get their act together.

I'm guessing there will be firmware updates to fix what should have been there all along.

Slim GoodBooty · 10-02-07, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by javayoda

You guys need to go after the manufacturers of these players. It's the classic chicken and egg routine. If Fox waited for the hardware companies to provide compliant players, it would never happen. (Because some hardware companies don't really care about features that aren't available on any titles.) This is the swift kick in the behind these companies need to get their act together.

I'm guessing there will be firmware updates to fix what should have been there all along.

Hold up there! The last Pioneer firmware made players slower.

oregoncalfroper · 10-02-07, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Slim GoodBooty

Hold up there! The last Pioneer firmware made players slower.

Do you own a Blu Ray player?

Slim GoodBooty · 10-02-07, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by oregoncalfroper

Do you own a Blu Ray player?

Two and working on a third. How many do you own? Next!

Bombthroat · 10-02-07, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ditch-digger

not mine either...

you know, this really sucks...how much did we pay for the freeking things..?

its bad enough you have to choose sides to play certain movies...

but now some don't even work.......

umd part 2

No need to get belligerent, you sound like a spoiled brat. I'm sure you just need a firmware update. You should contact your player manufacturer and express your discontent with their support. This is not a format issue but an issue with a couple of early players.

Contact your hardware manufacturer!

Slim GoodBooty · 10-02-07, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bombthroat

No need to get belligerent, you sound like a spoiled brat. I'm sure you just need a firmware update. You should contact your player manufacturer and express your discontent with their support. This is not a format issue but an issue with a couple of early players.

Contact your hardware manufacturer!

Do you believe that it is unreasonable for someone to expect their expensive video player to work? How much more anti-consumer can one get?

kevinca1 · 10-02-07, 09:41 PM

I played it on Samsung BDP1400 zero problems.

Johnsteph10 · 10-02-07, 09:44 PM

It took 2 mins to load on my Pioneer 94.

It loaded slightly slower than most discs on the PS3 but did fine.

Bombthroat · 10-02-07, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Slim GoodBooty

Do you believe that it is unreasonable for someone to expect their expensive video player to work? How much more anti-consumer can one get?

NO, not at all! I think you and anyone else who is having an issue with their player has a right to be upset...at the player manufacturer for not providing a timely firmware update.

I don't see the need to immediately bash the entire format because of a player issue; which was my point. I am certainly not calling you, ditch_digger, or any other member a name. I am saying you need to be able to react in a more civilized manner.

Like I said, call Samsung and tell them to get their butts in gear and get a firmware update out there. I'm sure if every owner with an issue calls Sansung something will get done about it. Bashing Blu-ray as an entire format will likely serve no purpose other than to get all the HD DVD fanbois riled up and posting anti-Blu-ray comments in here.

Do you see where I'm coming from on this?

MARINECOP · 10-02-07, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesO

Not to rub salt in the wounds, but the BDP1000 can play it.

I got a warning screen that the firmware wasn't optimum. After clicking through the screen and waiting an excruciatingly long time for it to load, it went on to play with frequent stutters....but it did play.

I have the same problem with my BDP 1000. The frequent stutters ruin the movie. I watched the first half hour of FFROSS and shut it off. What a damn waste. I hope Walmart will let me get my money back for that P.O.S. Damn you blu-ray.

Slim GoodBooty · 10-02-07, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bombthroat

NO, not at all! I think you and anyone else who is having an issue with their player has a right to be upset...at the player manufacturer for not providing a timely firmware update.

I don't see the need to immediately bash the entire format because of a player issue; which was my point. I am certainly not calling you, ditch_digger, or any other member a name. I am saying you need to be able to react in a more civilized manner.

Like I said, call Samsung and tell them to get their butts in gear and get a firmware update out there. I'm sure if every owner with an issue calls Sansung something will get done about it. Bashing Blu-ray as an entire format will likely serve no purpose other than to get all the HD DVD fanbois riled up and posting anti-Blu-ray comments in here.

Do you see where I'm coming from on this?

I understand, but it works both ways. It is a format thing, however. The combo issues were format and the BDJ issues are format. They need to fix all parts of the formats for them to ever take hold. It is still early, but I haven't had a HD DVD issue in a while, BD is still a problem for everyone that doesn't own a PS3 and this disc even slowed the PS3 down it seems.

Bombthroat · 10-02-07, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Slim GoodBooty

I understand, but it works both ways. It is a format thing, however. The combo issues were format and the BDJ issues are format. They need to fix all parts of the formats for them to ever take hold. It is still early, but I haven't had a HD DVD issue in a while, BD is still a problem for everyone that doesn't own a PS3 and this disc even slowed the PS3 down it seems.

Not trying to minimize anyone's frustration but being an early adopter often means having to live with annoyances early on.

I completely agree that for either format to hit mass market they need to have all the bugs worked out and be completely plug-and-play.

I have no doubt that stabilization will be what we see improving most next year. It will be more about having a consistent experience regardless of price point.

AaronSCH · 10-02-07, 10:37 PM

Watching it now... so glad I bought a PS3. But seriously, nobody should complain if they haven't loaded the most recent firmware updates.

daisuke149 · 10-02-07, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Slim GoodBooty

Do you believe that it is unreasonable for someone to expect their expensive video player to work? How much more anti-consumer can one get?

man i hope u dont own a 360

deckerm · 10-02-07, 10:47 PM

its not like there are 100s of different combinations of players out there. Some form of QC should exist to see what firmware should be updated. Is it the studios job to test the title, or the manufactures? If the manufacturers, do they get the copies in time to do a test?

Bombthroat · 10-02-07, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

man i hope u dont own a 360

Tell me about it. My Xbox (360) has done a 360 4 times now back to the mothership for repairs. I have written it off completely and no longer use it as it has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be completely unreliable. It is far and away the most unreliable piece of electronic equipment I have ever owned.

I could not recommend it to anyone due to reliability issues.

dominica · 10-02-07, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Slim GoodBooty

I understand, but it works both ways. It is a format thing, however. The combo issues were format and the BDJ issues are format. They need to fix all parts of the formats for them to ever take hold. It is still early, but I haven't had a HD DVD issue in a while, BD is still a problem for everyone that doesn't own a PS3 and this disc even slowed the PS3 down it seems.

Agreed 100%, However no slow downs on the PS3 ( 4 buds from work tested the movie today and no problems or slow down on PS3, loaded to the menu in under 15 seconds) and everything worked fine.

ptysell · 10-02-07, 10:58 PM

My BD-P1000 plays it fine - it does however take FOREVER to load...

zaRgbE · 10-02-07, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bombthroat

you sound like a spoiled brat.

Spankman dinged me for member insult, and it wasn't even member insult. So, mods, what gives? Is he singling me out?

MidnightWatcher · 10-02-07, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bombthroat

Tell me about it. My Xbox (360) has done a 360 4 times now back to the mothership for repairs. I have written it off completely and no longer use it as it has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be completely unreliable. It is far and away the most unreliable piece of electronic equipment I have ever owned.

I could not recommend it to anyone due to reliability issues.

I believe that new XBox 360's with 65nm CPUs are starting to show up. Might want one of those instead since it'll run much cooler. I've read that new Halo 3 Xbox 360 consoles with lot numbers #734 have been confirmed to have the newly new 65nm CPUs in them.

Calamus · 10-02-07, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Slim GoodBooty
Do you believe that it is unreasonable for someone to expect their expensive video player to work? How much more anti-consumer can one get?

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149

man i hope u dont own a 360

Now you made me spit my drink out on the monitor - uck

TrevorS · 10-02-07, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kevinca1

I played it on Samsung BDP1400 zero problems.

How long did it take to load?

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khwiggins2 AVS Special Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Clarksburg, MD Posts: 1,436	Besides PS3, can anything play Fantastic Four:RotSS Has anyone with a stand alone player been able to get Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer to run. I just get a screen telling me I need a firmware update. I have the Samsung BD-P1200 __________________ "We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty!" - Captain Malcolm Reynolds

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JamesO Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: VA Posts: 170	Not to rub salt in the wounds, but the BDP1000 can play it. I got a warning screen that the firmware wasn't optimum. After clicking through the screen and waiting an excruciatingly long time for it to load, it went on to play with frequent stutters....but it did play. __________________ All of this science is hurting my brain!

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ditch-digger Advanced Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In the middle of the woods New Hampshire Posts: 873	not mine either... you know, this really sucks...how much did we pay for the freeking things..? its bad enough you have to choose sides to play certain movies... but now some don't even work....... umd part 2

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ditch-digger Advanced Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In the middle of the woods New Hampshire Posts: 873	cant wait till spiderman....maybe only 1&2 will work, and 3 will not.. avg consumer.....hd-dvd no disney blu-ray some movies may work....crap shoot dvd....hhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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javayoda Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 397	You guys need to go after the manufacturers of these players. It's the classic chicken and egg routine. If Fox waited for the hardware companies to provide compliant players, it would never happen. (Because some hardware companies don't really care about features that aren't available on any titles.) This is the swift kick in the behind these companies need to get their act together. I'm guessing there will be firmware updates to fix what should have been there all along.

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Johnsteph10 AVS Special Member AVS CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Middle GA Posts: 3,580	It took 2 mins to load on my Pioneer 94. It loaded slightly slower than most discs on the PS3 but did fine. __________________ John Loganed...finally. 6/6/08 My 3.0 HT Build Thread

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deckerm Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 301	its not like there are 100s of different combinations of players out there. Some form of QC should exist to see what firmware should be updated. Is it the studios job to test the title, or the manufactures? If the manufacturers, do they get the copies in time to do a test? __________________ My DVD Collection My SACD Collection

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