Pitch Shift
05-29-09, 12:36 AM
Yet another "which speakers to buy" thread you say? As a long time lurker, the pitifulness of my first post being pretty much a rehash of every other thread out there is not lost on me. However, I do need a little help from you friendly forum posters, so, with my pride swallowed, I ask:
What do you think of these options?
Err... let me back up... This will be my first major HT setup. I feel that a good loudspeaker works well for movies if it does well with music, but for the curious, I guess I would say 60/40 music(All genres, emphasis on rock, electronic, and world/ethnic)/movies(Next gen gaming, blu-ray, emphasis on action and artistic). My room is pretty small, 12' by 20' ish, with about 12' by 12' for the HT space. Components I have concluded on/own are as follows:
Display: Pioneer Elite Pro-111fd
Power: Panamax M5100-PM
Sources: Xbox 360, Blu-ray player (TBD, looking at Pio BDP-51FD/BDP-05FD, one of the new Denon pieces, or PS3)
AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-05
OK, take two:
Option one: B&W 685 Home theater
Fronts 685's
Center HTM62/61 (depends on price)
Rears 686's
Sub Episode C5 12"
Option two: Paradigm Monitor Titan Home theater
Fronts Titan Monitors
Center CC-290
Rears Atom Monitors
Sub DSP-3200 12"
Option three: Aperion 5B Fusion SD
Fronts Intimus 5B
Center Intimus 5C
Rears Intimus 4B
Sub Bravus 8D
I have listened to the B&Ws at an intimate, small scale dealer. They were set up in acoustically treated rooms with multi-thousand dollar cabling (MIT, etc) and Amps (Rotel, etc). I was able to have the setup demoed on an SC-05. I've been listening to the Paradigms at a larger retailer. Their setup incorporates a lot of switching mechanisms, and what looked like 18 to 16 gauge wire. Considering the Aperions for in-home audition mostly based on reviews/appearance.
Initial impressions are that the B&Ws are a bit more clear and detailed, but show more signs of strain at higher volumes. The Paradigms are a bit more dynamic, but they didn't quite seem as accurate or as detailed. I suspect that some of that loss of detail was due to the poor setup in the larger store.
My budget is $1100 - $1500, with preference for the lower end of that, obviously. I work for a major electronics retailer, and will probably use some accommodation offers from Klipsch and JBL as leverage for good pricing at the local dealers.
What do you guys think? If I can get the local shops down to $1200ish do you think the Aperions would even be worth auditioning at nearly $1600?
What do you think of these options?
Err... let me back up... This will be my first major HT setup. I feel that a good loudspeaker works well for movies if it does well with music, but for the curious, I guess I would say 60/40 music(All genres, emphasis on rock, electronic, and world/ethnic)/movies(Next gen gaming, blu-ray, emphasis on action and artistic). My room is pretty small, 12' by 20' ish, with about 12' by 12' for the HT space. Components I have concluded on/own are as follows:
Display: Pioneer Elite Pro-111fd
Power: Panamax M5100-PM
Sources: Xbox 360, Blu-ray player (TBD, looking at Pio BDP-51FD/BDP-05FD, one of the new Denon pieces, or PS3)
AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-05
OK, take two:
Option one: B&W 685 Home theater
Fronts 685's
Center HTM62/61 (depends on price)
Rears 686's
Sub Episode C5 12"
Option two: Paradigm Monitor Titan Home theater
Fronts Titan Monitors
Center CC-290
Rears Atom Monitors
Sub DSP-3200 12"
Option three: Aperion 5B Fusion SD
Fronts Intimus 5B
Center Intimus 5C
Rears Intimus 4B
Sub Bravus 8D
I have listened to the B&Ws at an intimate, small scale dealer. They were set up in acoustically treated rooms with multi-thousand dollar cabling (MIT, etc) and Amps (Rotel, etc). I was able to have the setup demoed on an SC-05. I've been listening to the Paradigms at a larger retailer. Their setup incorporates a lot of switching mechanisms, and what looked like 18 to 16 gauge wire. Considering the Aperions for in-home audition mostly based on reviews/appearance.
Initial impressions are that the B&Ws are a bit more clear and detailed, but show more signs of strain at higher volumes. The Paradigms are a bit more dynamic, but they didn't quite seem as accurate or as detailed. I suspect that some of that loss of detail was due to the poor setup in the larger store.
My budget is $1100 - $1500, with preference for the lower end of that, obviously. I work for a major electronics retailer, and will probably use some accommodation offers from Klipsch and JBL as leverage for good pricing at the local dealers.
What do you guys think? If I can get the local shops down to $1200ish do you think the Aperions would even be worth auditioning at nearly $1600?